
Last week a giant spy balloon from China passed over Canada and the United States, collecting who-knows-what information about our military, and transmitting it to the Chinese military.
Many argue we should have shot it down before it had the chance to spy on us, and have claimed we are idiots for not downing it over Montana. But we have nothing to worry about. Because we’re such idiots, the spy balloon couldn’t have detected any intelligence, anyway.
The president claims he worried about falling debris striking and killing innocent civilians. He has explained that because of this worry, he gave the order to his general to shoot it down “when appropriate.” Having been in the military, I think I know what happened. The order, as given, was wishy-washy, and fashioned with classic principles of CYA (Cover Your Ass) in mind.
It left the general in a difficult position. If he shot the balloon down over Montana, and it injured anyone on the ground, the president’s ass wouldn’t be in any trouble. The general would be the one in hot water because obviously, it would not have been the “appropriate” time to shoot the balloon down. So his safest choice was to let the balloon spy on us, and leave it unharmed as it passed over our land.
By waiting until the balloon had spied on many of our strategic military bases, before shooting it down over the Atlantic Ocean, the general protected civilians from potential harm, and his own ass from being fired. Such is the mentality of military bureaucracy.
Just yesterday another object was shot down, over the frozen waters of northern Alaska. It was likely another balloon. Nobody knows yet if it was a spy balloon, or if it was even from China. Who knows, perhaps it was an escaped promotional balloon belonging to a used car lot owner in Beijing, named Tu Hai.
Nonetheless, the shooting down of this balloon made headlines for the consumption of a jittery public. Tensions have never been higher between the United States and China, and these balloons have only heightened our fears of war with that nation.
All of this reminds me of a war that erupted over balloons nearly 40 years ago. In 1984, a large amount of red balloons were released over West Germany by two German civilians just having some fun. The balloons floated over the border into Soviet-occupied East Germany. A Soviet general thought they were UFOs and scrambled fighter pilots to investigate. The pilots intercepted the balloons and destroyed them in a spectacular display of firepower.
Generals on both sides of the border witnessed the aerial explosions and worried an attack was underway. The alarm was sounded, and both sides gave the order to launch their nuclear missiles. Global thermonuclear war ensued, and the world was reduced to ash.
But of course this didn’t really happen, or you wouldn’t be reading this post right now. This was a fictional tale told in the lyrics of a hit song in 1984, entitled 99 Luftballoons. It was performed by the German band, Nena, and enjoyed worldwide success that year. In the United States, the song rose to #2 on Billboard’s Hot 100, becoming one of the most successful foreign language songs in U.S. history.
All the international tensions lately over balloons has reminded me of Nena’s hit song. I sure hope it wasn’t prophetic. Perhaps it would be a good idea to revisit this tune, and let it serve as a warning to us, to tone down the rhetoric and ease our fingers off the trigger.
Here’s Nena’s one-hit wonder of 1984, with English captions for those who don’t speak German:
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From what I read on the WSJ, once we detected and started monitoring the balloon, it stopped transmitting anything so it wasn’t viewed as still effectively spying. And shooting exploding missiles and unknown objects over people’s property seems like a risky thing to do.
This all seems to me like a really stupid move by whomever in China sent these balloons. I don’t know what they accomplished other than looking stupid. There are fleets of spy satellites that overfly both countries all day long and collect more and probably better spy data. The Chinese has as many launches as the US did last year and I’m sure they have plenty of low orbit spy satellites. But, send a giant, slow moving, easy to detect and destroy spy balloon that serves questionable purpose directly into recognized United States air space and then tell a very public, easily disprovable lie about its intent? Mystifyingly stupid.
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Yes, it does seem pretty stupid on the part of the Chinese. And then the nerve of them to complain about us shooting it down. But the optics of allowing this balloon to pass over the US before shooting it down, makes us appear weak. And a lot of people don’t believe the government’s statement that the balloon stopped transmitting. Maybe, but I find it a little incredulous myself. What I’ve heard is that, as a low-flying object, it was able to gather better information than a satellite could gather. But who knows? One thing is for sure, this balloon did not help improve relations between our two countries.
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Well, it was flying at 60,000 feet and I am sure that it was kind of unpredictable where the balloon and the weapons used to shoot it down would land. And there probably wasn’t anywhere along that flight path where they could shoot it down with any certainty that some dangerous piece of debris wouldn’t come down in some backyard where kids were playing. That seems like it would have been worse PR to me.
The balloon seems really sloppy to me. Maybe it was a response to US naval activity in the South China Sea or near to Taiwan and some soft attempt at aggression.
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They put PR above national security. But I think overall, this strategy backfired, as it probably hurt the president politically. It makes him look weak. But on the bright side, at least no one on the ground was injured.
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I don’t know if it was much of a security threat and having the military engage in a hot engagement over US soil would be a pretty big deal. Maybe the Chinese were trying to provoke a response. I don’t know.
I do know for certain that the President and the Generals and whatnot know a lot more about this balloon than I ever will, so not sure that my second-guessing is worth anything.
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I don’t know much either, but I wondered the same about the Chinese purposely trying to provoke a response. Whatever the reason it was most certainly very stupid of them!
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I agree. What we know is far less than what they know. I just hope they made the best practical decision, without letting politics interfere.
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Oh, and that 99 Red Balloons video was when I realized as a kid that German women don’t shave their pits.
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Leave it to you … LOL! I hope that wasn’t too traumatizing to you as a kid.
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I hope that didn’t pop any balloons for you.
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I did feel somewhat deflated.
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Most balloons I have seen are full of hot air anyway so I am not concerned. Then of course there was the very sad movie “Red Balloon” about a little boy, so perhaps I should be concerned. Damn I’m confused now!
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I’ve never seen that tearjerker. Don’t be confused. Just go out and buy a BB gun, and shoot down any balloons that pass over your property. If the police come, explain that you’re defending your country from foreign invasion. They’ll understand.
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It’s a beautiful movie. French … but no spoken words. It’s about a little boy who befriends a red balloon! I love it!
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Looks interesting. I’ll see if I have time to watch it today.
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A box of Kleenex might be useful to have close by!
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Okay. But if I can’t find one, I’ll just hock it over the side of my chair.
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I am sure your wife would be so “appreciative” of you doing that!
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Yep. That’s what I pay her for.
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…mmm…!! Your poor wife! I should write a poem. 😛
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You mean like my “Poor Brad” poem, which Tippy’s readers may not know about!
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Oooh I believe Tippy’s readers are well aware of it, due to certain people posting it more than once! 😛
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But it never hurts to provide a periodic reminder.
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Pftttttt!!
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I wouldn’t be so sure, you may get hurt by something flying out of my hand …. just saying. 😉
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That’s okay. I’ll take one for the team. We men have to stick together.
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Pfttt!! Aren’t you so courageous to “take one for the team!”
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Now that I’ve taken one, I think I’m schtupid.
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Dummkopf, Doofus, take your pick. 😉
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Don’t bother. I’ll just stop paying her.
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😶🤚!
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I highly recommend it too! And yes, have your tissues because you may feel lumpy in your throat.
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Thanks for the warning. I might have mistaken the lump for cancer.
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Always glad to help!
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I just finished watching it. I found it kind of amusing and kind of sad, but with a strange, possibly happy ending. Who knew balloons have their own lives?
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I believe that was a relatively low budget movie in which the little boy was the film producer’s son, and the end result won some prestigious award in France. Not bad for a 30 min movie! 🙂
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Yeah, I think it was a pretty good job for a short flick. And it’s one anyone can enjoy, even if they don’t speak French.
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“Poor Brad”
So many years ago he found himself a bride
Her parents were so glad
At last now she was going; she was leaving their home
Everyone was happy… but poor Brad.
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Her sisters were delighted that she was getting wed
It was no secret they were glad
They stifled their smiles as she walked down the aisle
But they couldn’t help thinking… poor Brad
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He suffered her humor and put up with her quirks
And then a child they had
Dizzy with excitement; illogical as ever
Carolyn was a challenge. Poor Brad!
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A second child followed much to Carolyn’s delight
And Brad was, once again, a Dad.
“Dizzy Lizzy” was confused, puzzled and rather perplexing
But our thoughts go out to poor Brad.
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So many years have now gone by. So much time has passed
Was it really all that bad?
Well by all accounts; at least from what we’ve heard
All we can say is …poor Brad!
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Now over 20 years later we just shake our heads
She’s obviously quite mad!
We’ve known her for many years, and she does have really nice kids
But… we just have to say… poor Brad
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Brad is surely a martyr; suffering the confusion
It really is quite sad
For Carolyn, being so short, if she asked what we thought… we’d say (while looking down)
It’s alright for you… but… poor Brad!
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Ah, that brings back such memories. Thanks Colin. I hope everyone who reads this will stop for a moment and silently send well wishes to poor Brad.
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Oh indeed Tippy. It is interesting that it was Carolyn that brought up the idea. I had forgotten all about the poetic gem “Poor Brad”. 🙂
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I guess we owe it to her, for bringing it up.
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Feel free to pay me! $100 bills are the best!
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Nah, Colin already paid you by re-posting that beautiful poem.
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Your definition of “beautiful poem” is far different from mine, doolally!
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And probably more accurate.
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Smartass!
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Riiiight!
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🙄🙄 I am sure Brad would be glad to shake your hand and offer you his sincere thanks but … he can’t, so sad. On the other hand, I can show you my “thanks!” THUNK!! Oops! I forgot to tell you to duck!
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Ow! Damn! 🤕
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You were warned!
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The purpose of these things is to elicit a response… or a lack thereof. When the mainland Chinese fly a bunch of aircraft over the dividing line between the mainland and Taiwan, they also monitor when and where the radar systems light up, how they’re detected, and what response is elicited. They’re banging on the hollow tree to see when and where the bees emerge. This particular balloon, however, was so low that I think it was also intended to send a political message before negotiations… something like a big middle finger.
The Alaskan coastline is the direct route for a Chinese ICBM (or long-range bomber or drone), so consequently where NORAD should first detect these things. The Chinese have recently invested in constructing about 1,500 new missile silos (most not yet equipped with missiles), so they’re feeling around to see how the US detection system works.
I remember Nena. And, “The Red Balloon.” The good old days of Mutual Assured Destruction and rescue by some Deus Ex Machina.
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I think the message the Chinese received is that the president was too chicken to risk getting some bad PR from a falling balloon conking someone on the head. Which is quite a remote chance in Montana, I think. So now they know how chickenshit our president is. They may have also intercepted a few messages, with the antenna array their balloon carried.
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Agreed… though, have you ever been to Montana? More likely to injure a grazing cow. I just think it was just too embarrassing to admit the thing had already made it that far undetected… until some civilian happened to look up. I also think the Chinese have figured out that our detection system doesn’t actually work most of the time. Apparently, the last four balloon crossings (that they even know about) weren’t detected at all while they were happening. The Chinese were probably flummoxed… “Are US territorial defenses really that crappy?!” Yeah… Bad PR. Really bad!
China is constructing a strategy for taking back Taiwan. And if they feel that they can grab the US by the testicles while they do it, then they may feel greatly emboldened to do so while they’ve got a good grip. This was the culmination of a many years long major diplomatic F-up on the part of the US that has probably brought us significantly closer to losing a couple of carrier fleets. Ugh…
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I wonder how we found out about those four balloons, after the fact? Seems strange to me. Anyway, China doesn’t have a great record for winning wars, so I hope this recent “success” on their part won’t embolden them to go on the offensive. We Americans do stupid things sometimes, but I think it would be pretty stupid of China, or any other country, to underestimate us.
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Yes! They were discovered after the fact, apparently when reviewing flight radar records or something like that (no one wants to say exactly). Usually, these things fly at more like 120,000-feet, so they’re not visible from the ground. And if they don’t carry a radar reflector (legitimate weather balloons always do), they’re not necessarily obvious radar targets.
Shooting down the balloon with an F-22 was certainly a media spectacle. It also revealed something about the Raptor’s “service ceiling” (highest operational altitude) that has only been speculated. 60,000-feet is pretty spectacularly high for a combat aircraft to be able to perform “tactical maneuvers”. It was a message back to the Chinese that our technology does, in fact, work as advertised.
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Maybe now we can sell some F-22s to them.
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“…they [the capitalists] will work on the preparation of their own suicide.”
— Vladimir Lenin to Grigori Zinoviev after a meeting of the Soviet Politburo in the early 1920s. (Sometimes re-interpreted to, “…sell us the the rope which hang them.”)
Who knows, might be enough to finance a good party before the air-raid sirens.
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Lenin was a wily one. So is Xi, I think.
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You guys should get a giant inflatable Donald Trump and float it over China. That’ll scare them!
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It needs to include big… REALLY big inflatable hands.
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Hmm, interesting thought. Yeah, he wasn’t afraid to stand up to China. Nor were any of the bribes he took, coming from that country.
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I was just thinking the dick… uh, I mean hand waving might worry them. Considering these balloon overflights started on Trump’s watch, I don’t think Xi Jinping was ever particularly worried about his strategies.
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Maybe it’s all a lot of sophmoric taunting by world leaders who haven’t learned more effective ways to communicate.
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Communication is a lost art!
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Amen!
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I don’t know if it’s ever been found. Human communication seems like one of the most difficult things in the world.
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True! Its sad, because it is important on so many levels!
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i miss the days when a balloon was just a balloon.
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Yeah, those were the days. But at least these days we have inflation.
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… lol. yep, let’s break out the balloons and celebrate!
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Apparently another sac de gaz was just shot down by the USAF over Canada. I guess the Chinese think we need some target practice?
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I heard something about that. I guess we really do have a balloon war going on. I’m glad to know we’re able to shoot them down.
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Maybe they were testing our ability to detect and shoot down stuff at that altitude. I have read that there were also reported balloon incidents going back several years.
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Maybe it’s been going on all along, and this is the first time we’ve paid any attention to it.
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If we are lucky, this balloon shit will blow over quickly and we will look back at it as a joke. The spy balloon can’t see or intercept much more than all the satellites circling above it. But gives the pilots some live fire practice…
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Could be this balloon shit has been blown all out of proportion. Pun intended.
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