Welcome to the latest installation of a 5-part series about environmentally-friendly cars, entitled Green Machines. For the next post in this series, CLICK THIS LINK. To start at the beginning, CLICK THIS LINK. Thanks for reading!
Driving Green
We hear it all the time: Buying an electric vehicle will reduce your carbon footprint and help save the Earth from air pollution and global warming. And who wouldn’t want to save the Earth? We humans have been busy trying to save the Earth from ourselves for thousands of years. Perhaps driving green is a way of continuing this long tradition.
We often measure how green we are by how much we’ve reduced our carbon footprint. It’s a very effective way to virtue signal. For instance, I have chosen to have no children. In this way, I’ve reduced my carbon footprint exponentially, compared with the average person, and that makes me as green as a man from Mars. I’m so fucking virtuous. So there.
But does buying an electric vehicle actually reduce one’s carbon footprint, compared with buying a gas or diesel vehicle? What a stupid question. Everyone knows that electric cars don’t put out any air pollution at all, so the answer is obvious.
Or is it?

Well, maybe not. First, let’s look at how electric cars are made. Most are powered by lithium-ion batteries. These batteries require a tremendous amount of energy to produce. And this increases emissions to about 15% to 68% more than the air pollution caused by manufacturing a gas-powered car.
Okay, that ain’t good, but maybe that will be made up for down the road, in the reduction of emissions from driving an electric car. But the problem with this is that the electricity you’ll use to recharge your batteries has to come from somewhere. And that somewhere is the magical little three-holed outlet implanted in the wall of your garage. Just plug your car into it and, voila, you’ve saved the world!
Well shit, not so fast. Those little electrons pouring out of the magical outlet, originate from a power plant. And that power plant very likely burns coal or oil, belching tons of pollutants into the air.
I haven’t found an exact comparison from all the experts on the internet, but the gist I get is that it’s still slightly less polluting to drive an electric car than a gas-powered car, even when taking into consideration the dirty, smudge-producing smokestacks sticking up from the outskirts of town. But only slightly. This slight difference is probably not enough to make up for all the extra air pollution from producing the electric car.
But that’s alright, because we’re steadily working on developing clean energy, such as wind and solar, right? Well maybe, but I wouldn’t hold my breath. And renewable energy is very expensive, so if it ever becomes the prevalent source of our power, we can expect to pay one hell of a lot more in our utility bills.
We can always go nuclear. That’s damned clean, at least until your local nuclear power plant melts down. And of course there’s always the thorny issue of where to store the nuclear waste, that requires about 10,000 years to degrade. But if you don’t mind your children being born with three heads and five arms, then let’s go nuclear.
And then there’s my state of California, the land of fruits and nuts, and its attempt to push hydrogen fuel cell vehicles upon the populace. Technically these are electric vehicles, where a fuel cell converts hydrogen gas into electricity, that powers electric motors connected to the wheels.
When the hydrogen is converted to electricity, the emission coming out of the tailpipe is water. Nothing could be cleaner than that, right? So hydrogen provides the perception of reducing one’s carbon footprint. But in reality, most hydrogen these days is produced by burning fossil fuel. And more fossil fuel is required to make hydrogen, than is used to produce an equivalent amount of electricity at a power plant. This fact is hidden from environmentally-conscious consumers, through the shell game of carbon credits.
You can get deep subsidies when you purchase a hydrogen vehicle in California. But you’ll also receive an abundance of headaches, such as the extremely high cost of hydrogen (try spending $100 to drive 380 miles), and trying to find a fuel cell station that isn’t out of fuel. It’s a mare’s nest that’s turned into an expensive and ridiculous debacle, that is sustained only by the influence of big money upon our state legislators.
My take on this matter is, the best way to reduce the carbon footprint we produce from traveling, is to create more human footprints. By that I mean, we have to start walking everywhere we go. Because buying an electric car is not likely to make much of a difference in global warming.
However, that’s when you take all driving into consideration. Electric cars tend to be much more efficient than gas cars for the kind of slow-speed, stop-and-go traffic encountered in cities. But at faster, highway travel, where speeds are more steady, the difference in energy efficiency between electric and gas tends to decline.
That makes an electric car a good choice for those who want to help the environment, and who plan to do most of their driving around town. Otherwise a hybrid car might be the better choice.
In the next post we’ll be learning more about electric cars. Then later, we’ll pivot to those mysterious hybrids.
Some of my sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_cell
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a36003212/hydrogen-mirai-california-shortage/
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-08-10/hydrogen-highway-or-highway-to-nowhere
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Hydrogen-fueled-cars-face-uncertain-market-in-5519890.php
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Categories: Series (Science): Green Machines
The Wall Street Journal did a big piece comparing the carbon footprint of gasoline powered cars to electric cars from raw material to junk yard. Electric cars had a much smaller foot print.
Another hidden cost of gasoline cars is health impact. Tail pipe emissions do cause chronic health problems in people and you can’t get away from it.
Generating electricity at a few power plants where it is easier to control emissions is less polluting than generating mechanical energy with 20 million gasoline and diesel power plants in various states of disrepair.
It bugs me that we get all the energy we want for free everyday from a non-polluting source that requires no maintenance and doesn’t belong to anyone and will continue to operate for billions of years, but we mine oil and burn it instead.
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I haven’t seen that Wall Street Journal article. However even my research indicates that if you only drive in the city, your electric car will be much more energy efficient than a gas car.
Solar energy seems to have a lot of promise. But from what I understand, buying solar panels is kind of a break-even proposition, compared with relying on the grid. That’s a lot better than the way things used to be, so hopefully the technology will continue to improve to the point of making the decision to go solar a no-brainer.
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I think that solar panels and batteries are going to get to the point that solar can play a bigger part. Solar can also be widely distributed on roof-tops unlike most other forms of power generation. But, yeah, manufacturing of solar panels needs some further refinements, which is happening.
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After you mentioned solid-state batteries the other day, I did a little research. It does seem like promising technology, in terms of the density of energy that can be stored in such batteries. Maybe someday in the not-too-distant future it will become a reality.
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The WSJ stuff is all subscription required, but here is basically the same thing at Ars Technica
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/07/electric-cars-have-much-lower-life-cycle-emissions-new-study-confirms/
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That’s encouraging to read. However, I will note this line in the article:
“Finally, the study accounts for the fact that energy production should become less carbon-intensive over time, based on stated government objectives.”
I’m not sure I can trust those “stated government objectives.” My guess is that those objectives involve the hoped-for development of green energy, such as wind and solar. The question is, are those objectives realistic? Or, will the government have to push back deadlines as we draw near them, with alternative-energy technology not having advanced as much as projected? Or will the high cost of new, green energies lead to public outrage and the election of conservative politicians, who push back the deadlines? So to me, the results of the cited study are rather tenuous, and could just be pie-in-the-sky.
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Government policy is subject to change every couple of years. Wind and solar have been picking up a lot of share this century as they are reaching price parity and companies like to pay for carbon offsets.
It should be obvious to all put the most deliberately thick headed that we can’t stay on the oil train forever.
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Well unfortunately in the government we do have some “deliberately thick headed” people!
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The most thickheaded on either side get the most votes.
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True! So what does that say about the ones who vote?
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We can if some of us die. Maybe what we need is a big nuclear war, so that there will be enough oil left for those who survive.
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That is one idea
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I am feeling rather relieved that you aren’t in charge!
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Hey, it wasn’t my idea.
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Yes, I know, it was the other stooge’s idea ….. but ….I am relieved that neithet of you are in charge. LOL!
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If I became President I’d provide free bomb shelters to everyone who follows my blog. Only then would I push the big red button.
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Then luckily you find out that the big red button just opens the White House garage door.
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That would be just my luck. Then my top general would tip off the Chinese, and they’d come steal my presidential limousine.
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Well now that would be considerate of you. Would yoj provide food and water for everyone too?
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No, there’ll be plenty of food and water in the abandoned grocery stores, after the apocalypse.
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But what about the fear of zombies?
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Don’t worry, they only chase people with brains.
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Smartass!
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I am relieved that I am not in charge as well. What’s that story about the sword of Damocles?
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Thats not a reassuring story. I had to look it up. Yes, keep your day job. 🙂
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I’d rather have a pie above my head than a sword.
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LOL! I will have to agree with that. That yes, I would rather the pie be above your head and not mine. 🙂
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Thanks for doing the research, it is interesting reading. It seems like no matter how good something may be, there always is a drawback. Nothing is perfect, but hopefully we can get closer to having the pie-in-the-sky!
If the world would become all water we could just row everywhere.
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You’re welcome. If I can keep this interesting for you, then I know I’ve done my job.
So are you wishing for a great diluvium, like Noah went through? Maybe global warming will get us there one day.
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And to keep something about automobiles interesting than yes, you have done a very good job! 🙂
No, I don’t want the magnitude of Noah’s flood or your fancy ‘diluvium” word. Just like Venice, for example, walk, bike or row. 🙂
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I’ve heard of rowing through the canals of Venice, but not walking or biking. Can you rent scuba gear for that?
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“Funnny!” You doolally! Not all of Venice is covered in water. But when you turn 16 you get your boat license not a driver’s license. I probably could do better operating a boat. 🙂
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Sure, until a whale jumps in front of you.
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Look up and see if there really is a pie in the sky. ………
Splat.
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Heyyy! It looks like someone is still on a roll from yesterday.
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And wait….I am the one who throws things! 🙂
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The pie that splatted in your face was just a lucky coincidence (or unlucky for you I guess). You do like desserts.
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“Haha!” Yeah, unlucky may be more like it. I do like desserts…BUT….they don’t typically fall from the sky. I prefer mine placed in front of me with a fork or spoon!
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nothing is ever as straightforward as it seems.. myabe what’s needed is a way to reduce car usage – perhaps more incentives to use public transit
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You can have all the public transit you want. Remember, you can’t be too picky about who you sit next to.
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I mean, it could be a blogger…
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The fossil fuel industry and corporate-orientated governments can tell when a very large portion of the populace is too tired and worried about feeding/housing themselves or their family, and the devastation being left in COVID-19’s wake — all while on insufficient income — to criticize them for whatever environmental damage their policies cause/allow, particularly when not immediately observable. (Indeed, I have not heard Greta’s name in the mainstream corporate news-media since Covid-19 hit.)
Without doubt, this helps keep the average consumer quiet, lest they feel like and/or be publicly deemed hypocritical. It must be convenient. Meanwhile, neo-liberals and conservatives everywhere appear overly preoccupied with vociferously criticizing one another for their relatively trivial politics and diverting attention away from some of the planet’s greatest polluters, where it should and needs to be sharply focused.
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It can be kind of frustrating to keep people focused on one issue, and no doubt there are those in corporate America who take advantage of that.
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Hear, hear! Especially the part about less driving in cars and more walking around! Better for the planet, better for our bodies!
Deb
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I’m for that. Walking and hiking are my favorite recreational activities. It’s an inexpensive way to enjoy nature without disturbing the environment much.
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Love the idea for this series. But I would say that green energy is here and growing. California is already getting more than one/third of it’s power from green sources. https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/california-power-generation-and-power-sources
And there’s so much solar power available in spring and fall, Arizona is thinking of turning it’s nuclear plant into creating hydrogen (both to power cars and gas-fired electrical plants). https://apnews.com/article/6da553adc96143759e3b9419e3793cd7.
Rather than gov. policy, most of this change is going to be driven by cost. Solar and wind are getting cheaper than other sources, but we need to solve storage issues to make them fully viable. A strong electric car market would go a long way to figuring out how to make bigger, better, safer and cheaper batteries for all applications.
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Well, that’s a third of the way to the goal, then. I agree that cost will be the biggest driver toward green vehicles. I don’t know of anyone in their right mind who’d rather drive a gas car than an electric car, except for the cost and limited range presented by our current electric cars.
As to storage issues, one of my followers, Jason, pointed out that it appears solid-state battery technology may soon improve to the point of making them practical and affordable. But that’s a little down the road, so to speak.
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Yes. Hard to predict the future. I bought into the lying nazi bullshit diesel as a “green” solution. I’ll wait for the self-driving electric flying ubers and then I won’t need to own a car.
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I know, I’ve read your hilarious posts about it, and watched the Lewis Black routine.
A lot so-called “green” is just greenwash. For example, for several years I worked as a letter carrier in Palm Springs. All the postal vehicles there had been converted so that they could run on either gasoline or natural gas. And they all had bumper stickers, proclaiming to the public, “Powered by clean, natural gas.” A lie. Never once did we use natural gas. We had our own gasoline pumping station at the post office, and we all pumped gasoline into the tanks, every day. But those bumper stickers were sure good for PR.
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