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Art is a step from what is obvious and well-known toward what is arcane and concealed. ~ Kahlil Gibran, Artist & Poet
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Art is a step from what is obvious and well-known toward what is arcane and concealed. ~ Kahlil Gibran, Artist & Poet
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for the most part, I don’t get art, at least the kind you find in museums, at all…
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Same here. But the main thing I don’t understand are the fortunes people are willing to pay for it.
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the greater fool theory.
people buy something now at an outrageous price, and then hope that someone comes along later and is willing to pay more…
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And there’s always a greater fool out there, somewhere.
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I’ve been that greater fool on occasion…
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Me too.
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When I try to draw, or paint, the mystery of what it is is well concealed by what it actually looks like!
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Perhaps that makes you a great artist. Just attach a $10,000 price tag to it, and everyone will think it’s a masterpiece.
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A great idea, will you buy it from me?
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Can’t afford it. But I would be willing to trade some of my art for yours.
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Okay, maybe I can sell your art for 10,000 dollars!
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I tend to draw authentic-looking pictures of hundred-dollar bills. So I think you could at least get $100.
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Aha!:
http://www.theatlantic[DOT]com/magazine/archive/1999/07/the-money-artist/308425/
(replace the “[DOT]”)
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Boy, that guy was taking some serious chance with a long jail term. It’s pretty interesting though, how he could transform a fake piece of currency into something worth more than $400,000.
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Bit Coin? Of course, sort of points out that the value any work-of-art, including a banknote, is pretty much arbitrary. The Fed just made $3.5-Trillion out of thin air and a little third-party plastic.
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I think there are forces at work influencing the value of currency, and I have a theory. But nobody has ever agreed with my theory, and telling it to others has always led to them telling me that my theory is stupid, but that their own theory is the correct one. I’ve tired of these debates, so now I keep my theory to myself.
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I wouldn’t mind hearing it. Those filing taxes in the maximum 20% system know that, just as a matter of fact, both money and markets are manipulated… sometimes for profit, sometimes for stability. Long-term investors watch the ratios and make shifts to follow cycles, mostly assessing levels of faith in the various Ponzi schemes designed to cyclically bail each other out. Just today, something triggered many investors to consider a shift into some “non-producing assets”, signalling the “adjustment” part of a cycle… one of the main reasons I’m around here today. I’m listening to a Kitco interview where housing prices in Montana and gold in the Weimar Republic were both mentioned, so I’m pretty open minded.
If you think about it, printing money is simply a way to get around taxing people for a redistribution of wealth, ultimately upward. The half that went directly to corporate bailouts is obvious. But the poor don’t hang on to their money, also sending it up the line. Then, speculative inflation acts as a de-facto tax on the middle, readjusting the distribution of wealth by lowering the value of their salaries and savings. Historically, this tends to gradually bring the value of a US dollar back in line with a gold-standard, which could be quite interesting this time around. The whole system works by redistributing wealth generated by a middle class, either through taxes or through premiums on the products generated by an exploited class… just look at the tax codes, or the actual workers building a house or picking the lettuce. And yet, Donald Trump would have qualified for a $600 relief check the way our taxes work. How could your theory be any more stupid?
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Perhaps all theories are stupid, in a reductionist way, given how complex the monetary system is.
But my stupid theory involves the fundamental value of money. I theorize that the underlying, fundamental demand for money is generated by the government’s ability to collect property taxes. Or, a head tax. However, head taxes are very unpopular, so governments tend to go the property tax way. But it works out nearly the same.
If you want to have a place to live, you must pay property tax. You can’t pay it in chickens, cow’s milk, or through any other barter method. The government demands that you pay this tax in the currency that the government prints.
Theoretically, if there was no property tax, people could live on a plot of land and subsistence farm, to stay alive. Plus they’d barter with their neighbors. They would never need money. If this caught on, then more and more people would start living like this, reducing the fundamental demand for money.
Of course, there are other forces at play that influence the demand for money, but I theorize that the original starting point, and the fundamental undergirding for the demand for money, lies in property taxes.
This demand for money is necessary so that the government can pay its employees in its currency, and government employees would then be able to use the currency to buy the things they need, including chickens and cow’s milk and all sorts of other things.
It’s government employees that keep the government powerful, so they must be paid through a currency that non-government employees need to have. In order to pay their property taxes.
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I agree, I don’t think its stupid either. Makes sense to me.
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Wow, finally someone agrees with me on this issue. Two people, actually. Maybe I should start a crusade and see if I can sway the masses.
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Not stupid at all. Sounds along the lines of Adam Smith’s ideas about “wealth taxes”, which he discussed in “The Wealth of Nations”, especially with regard to land. He argued that the state has a right only to the wealth that it generates, and in the case of land that’s represented only by the increases in the intrinsic value of the property itself through no improvement by its owner. This also adds incentive to productivity, since an owner won’t want to pay the state for an unproductive asset (tax on increased land value), but doesn’t pay taxes on the result of his or her own labor or improvements to the land.
Timely, actually, as California is considering a “wealth tax”, essentially treating money like land. And while the state can’t simply print its own money to represent that tax, it doesn’t need to. The service is already provided by the Fed.
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Well thanks. I guess I’m not as stupid as I look.
I’ve heard that Gov. Newsom is against the wealth tax, as he believes it would discourage innovators and other productive people from moving to this state. That’s a legitimate concern, given how many are moving out of California.
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Starting to question how many times they can afford to make the middle-finger waive goodbye at the likes of an Elon Musk. And we’re out of space in this refugee camp.
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If you’re out of space, then they’ll probably go to Texas or Florida. Those seem to be the other refugee destinations.
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What if you are trying to paint something that is already arcane and concealed?
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That should be easy. Just close your eyes and start painting.
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That’s how I painted my bedroom walls.
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That’s about how I paint, too.
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Just make sure you use the right color, that’s what matters.
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I take umber-idge at that remark.
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Thinking I may have made a mistake mentioning colors! LOL!
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Well, at least you don’t have to worry about me making an off-color joke here.
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“Haha!” Oh gosh, and so it begins!
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Hue bet you did.
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Groaning!
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Orange you really glad you did though?
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😶🤚!
Does that give you your answer? 🙂
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I am sure that you will be laughing azure smacking your head.
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I am thinking there are too many colors!
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I’ve red that there’s more tan a vermilion different shades.
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…mmm..!
Welll you guys may be good when it comes to puns but pretty confident you can’t cover all the colors! 🙂
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But we can try.
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Just don’t be blue if you fail! 😛
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You’re scaring me. Now I’m turning yellow.
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Eye-rolls! But yes, be chicken, that would be good!
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Okay, I’ll be a Rhode Island Red.
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😶🤚
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Don’t think you can top that one and my head is grateful! 🙂
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Upper-division “Contemporary Art”… having been caught “unprepared”, my final project was to have everyone step outside and watch the sunset for two-minutes. The professor was unimpressed. In my defense, I referred to some “artist” in the class textbook who took credit for getting people to notice the snowfall in some German city. I don’t think she realized that anyone would actually read the textbook.
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Haha! I admire your quick thinking. Too bad your professor didn’t.
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And this is why I don’t get certain types of poetry, I guess….😁. I feel like I should (it’s written language, after all), but the meaning is somehow just out of reach for me in some poems. (Not the inauguration poem though – that one I got!) Visual art is easier for me, because I feel (like song lyrics) it is more subject to the viewer’s interpretation.
Deb
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“Why I don’t GET…”
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Got it, and put the get in.
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I agree. I’m not a big fan of poetry, especially free verse. You often have to be a mind reader to understand the poet’s intent.
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I love art. My favourite is abstract and I love Picasso. Speaking of art, I’m about to get another tattoo on Thurs. lol It will be my last for a while because it’s getting expensive and Hubby likes to garden in the summer so it’s his turn now.
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Good luck with your skin art. I hope it turns out well.
Is your hubby saving his dimes and nickels to buy a new lawnmower?
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Thank you! Tomorrow is the big day!! No he likes plants and he plans to build a big planter for our fence. He also want to build us a headboard. I said to Hubby when we got married 17 years ago that I don’t care about having any old furniture but the only two things I really want are a head/foot board and bedside tables. He bought every other piece of furniture but those. 17 years later I’m still without them. Now he has it in his head to build a headboard. He’s just started getting into a little wood working last summer. It’s creating a monster. I can’t talk though because I’m a tattoo monster. lol
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At least now you’re going to get your headboard. Let’s hope he paints it, so you won’t get slivers in your scalp.
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I’ll probably end up staining it. Haha
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Send me a pic. 🙂
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That can be arranged. I may wait until it’s all healed up. It will look better.
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Sounds good! And then I will send you a picture of mine! ……………………………… Kiddding!!
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How many tattoos do you have?
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Zip, Zero, Nada, None! 🙂
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Same here. I’ll get my first one when I turn 80.
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Oh so, next year? Cool,will look forward to seeing it. 🙂
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Yeah, yeah.
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Well you know there is no Countdown calendar for me to be able to tell, so I just had to guess! 😛
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Maybe one day, 30 or 40 years from now, I’ll put one up.
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LOL!
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I hope your night at work is going well.
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Thanks. So far so good. She is asleep.
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Shhh! Good night.
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🙂
Sleep well!
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Haha! No! No kidding! Go for it! You’ll never look back! lol
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Sorry! Like I told my daughter, I do Not willingly inflict pain upon myself! 😄
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Haha! My hope during it was that it would override my stomach pain but it didn’t.
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Reminds me of a little story…
A kindergarten teacher asks a little girl what she’s drawing.
“God,” the child replies.
“But no one knows what God looks like.”
The child smiles. “They will in a minute.”
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smart little girl! LOL!
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Heh-heh. That’s a good one.
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